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  • #5794
    ReyG
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    So, I for one, still believe HomeKit is coming but perhaps they ran into a few unforeseen snags in development. They wouldn’t be the first and since HomeKit compatibility was just announced this year, not 2 years ago, I’m willing to cut them some slack.

    That being said, if it doesn’t have the HomeKit certification on the box, be wary of making purchases on promises. Ring has taught most of us that lesson.

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    #5797
    caalvarez
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    The Homekit logo is on the point of sale display at Home Depot, and on the HD web site. That’s what another person above was trying to point out. When you see that, you should be able to reasonably believe it is actually in the product now.

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    #5801
    ReyG
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    HomeKit badge is not on the actual box/packaging so I don’t have any expectation of HomeKit being included on the device out-of-the-box. Also, HomeKit is not mentioned in any included documentation.

    Also, the internet is a treasure trove of valuable information. It only takes a quick web search to verify if something works with HomeKit or not; is compatible or not. I always do that for purchases. I suggest everyone do the same, so there’ll be no surprises in the future.

    It helps to be an informed consumer.

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    #5803
    caalvarez
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    It’s not clear from searching, because my Googling lead me to a document right on the Orbit web site talking about Homekit as if it is already in there. Orbit didn’t link to it, but Google found it. So now you also have to second-guess Google.

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    #5804
    jer78
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    I agree that Orbit should not be advertising Homekit before it’s officially supported. At the same time, if you get the product home and realize it’s not supported, you can just return it to the store. That happens quite a bit with Home Depot purchases for me and I believe they have a 90 day return policy. If you think it’s the biggest injustice then start a class action lawsuit. But I doubt anyone at Orbit is losing much sleep over it. In the meantime, go out and buy a Google Home or Amazon Echo, you’ll probably find out it’s way better than Homekits capabilities anyway. Then in maybe 2 years from now we will finally get Homekit support and can all laugh about it. 🙂

    Cheers

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    #5806
    caalvarez
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    I have all three, and Homekit is by far, leaps and bounds, the better of all of them. I have several Echos, two Google Homes. I made sure everything was compatible with all three at first, but now I don’t care if something is Homekit-only since it blows away the other two, and I can live without them.

    Recently, Chamberlain and Amazon got into a fight, and pulled the support for my garage doors from Alexa. That’s it, feature gone. Apple has a specific policy against pulling support once they certify a Homekit device.

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    #5809
    jer78
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    Everyone has different needs I guess. I actually took the opposite approach and don’t care anymore if it has Homekit support. I run Home Assistant on my Mac mini and anything compatible with that I can bridge to Homekit, Alexa, Google Home etc.

    In the end, I find I use Alexa way more than Homekit because it’s easier to just talk to a device with a far field mic than to find my phone in my house. The only time Siri is more useful is when I’m in my car. HomePod is just too much money and too little value for me to justify going that route too. Not to mention, there is no display and no skills available at the moment.

    I guess the advantage Homekit has is with the automations but I do all of that in Home Assistant which has leaps and bounds more capabilities than HomeKit will ever have. Including the upcoming Siri shortcuts.

    I was an early Homekit adopter but had so many issues with it. Constant devices dropping from my config or routinely showing unavailable that I just got tired of repairing and fixing. Could be because of all the betas I’m constantly on but at the same time, there’s other products that proved more reliable.

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    #5813
    walstib373
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    When I was ready to buy, I wrote to Orbit directly and asked about HomeKit support.

    This was in May, and came after monitoring discussions here, and learning about the ABC vs. ABCD hardware.

    In May, Orbit said HomeKit support was near, just a couple of weeks out. That was 3 months ago.

    I bought an Orbit product based on that. I gave them the benefit of the doubt after the Ring fiasco.

    Does my timer work? Sure, it works fine. But Orbit has left a bad taste in my mouth for their failure to be up front about HomeKit support. Their story has changed and changed.

    They would have been better off if they waited until their equipment actually did what they said it did before announcing what amounts to hollow promises.

    At this point, they have no credibility.

    But HomeKit support is coming soon, they promise. Really soon. Just around the corner. Really. They promise.

    And for the record, when I visit Lowe’s stores, I check out the sprinkler timer section. So far, I have seen no signs or badges on Orbit products indicating HomeKit support.

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    #5814
    caalvarez
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    I didn’t try Homekit until recently, so I have no idea what the growing pains were. I only started down the automation path a couple months ago. So far, everything has been 100% except the Honeywell T5 thermostats just disappeared one day, from both Homekit and their own app. So I can’t blame Homekit.

    I wear an Apple Watch, and find talking to that is way better than talking to the other devices including the Homepod. The Homepod is in one garage so it’s useful when I’m working on things and can just talk. I’ve almost forgotten the other devices exist, and should just get rid of them.

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    #5816
    jer78
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    Homekit has been less painful lately I agree but being a user from the beginning definitely left a bad taste in my mouth. I spent countless hours setting things back up that now I just don’t see the usefulness for most things. And unless they made cheaper versions of the HomePod, it would literally cost me thousands to replicate what I have with Alexa.

    My automations are pretty advanced now too and it’s device agnostic. Everything from my alarm clock with traffic, weather, news, todo lists to vacation modes simulating someone is home at completely random times and events with lights and music and even talking. Once you look beyond homekit you will see a whole world of home automation options. Homekit is for the masses for sure, but quite limited for the foreseeable future.

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    #5817
    caalvarez
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    I do wish Apple had something like the Dot and Home Mini, which I could deploy all over the place. But with a Watch always on me, there’s really no huge advantage. I can see however, that if you don’t carry your phone all the time (I don’t), and don’t have the Watch, then having those devices is a huge advantage.

    I do have a Pi running Homebridge, Assistant, and a Z-wave interface.

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    #5818
    jer78
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    I have an Apple Watch too but it’s first gen and horribly slow. Being an early adopter with Apple is never a good thing it seems.

    Do you use Homebridge or Home Assistant?

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    #5819
    caalvarez
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    Yeah, it can be painful, but fun. I had the original one also.

    I’m only barely starting to mess with Homebridge and Assistant. Homebridge is working with my AV receiver, and I plan to add the TV and a couple other things. Not sure what I will do with Assistant. Other things came up and I stopped messing with them a few weeks ago.

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    #5820
    jer78
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    If you need help with home Assistant drop by the forums. My username is the same as here. Once you start down the automation path it gets addictive!

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    #5821
    caalvarez
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    Addictive…yeah… I have some hobbies that require shop space, and have two garages set up to do them. I also hang out with friends and neighbors out there all the time. Anyway it’s awesome to walk out and say “Hey Siri, shop time” and have the two doors open, lights and fans on, swamp cooler on, etc. So lazy, sure, but two of the fans are a pain to reach, and I’ve accidentally left the swamp cooler on overnight, rusting everything, so there are practical benefits too.

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